Jaxon Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Pal Network ICO is a scam, even though they do have a credential from previous ventures in simplifying insurance. I went to their pitch from Ethereum Singapore. After obersering this ICO's developments and hoping that they are not a scam, i cannot sit by anymore and not educate the public about experience with Pal Network and why it is a scam. 1) The CEO Val Yap has no idea what is the difference between a private chain and a public chain. 2) The Tech team does not know what the PYPL tokens are for, they refer to its use case as staking in a public chain they would build in future BUT event validation (insurance events) signing can only be done by trusted partners. The constant switching between their positions for their tokens tells me this is an attempt at raising capital for their current business ventures, not for building a truly public blockchain 3) The consensus mechanism for their supposedly PoS chain is not announced, and I assume it is to do with their setup being trusted (aka dPoS). I have no idea what consensus they are intending to use: Ouroboros/Casper/Algorand. No technical details on how they plan to initiate consensus among nodes were given. 4) Upon pressing them on how they plan to implement the first phase of their chain, they gave the answer that they plan to setup a Plasma child chain on the Ethereum mainnet, which does not give me confidence considering Plasma chain like OmiseGO which has the resources and talents have yet launched their testnet (only MVP). 5) The team has no experience in working with public chain networks, only in private chains using Quorum and Hyperledger SDK. 6) Upon pressing on how privacy features will be adopted or in the roadmap, they have no idea what privacy mechanisms like zkSNARKs, zkSTARKs and ring signatures are. This is extremely important because, in order for you to put a policy on the public chain, you will need a privacy feature! Whether you are storing your policies off-chain does NOT matter as the event trigger is on the blockchain! 7) Upon asking all these hard technical questions politely on the telegram, I was dismissed with the constant "The team will get back to you" even though their token sale is just 2 weeks away. This is a red alert. 😎 The last polite message I posted on their telegram to warn them the gravity of their situation triggered the deleting of all my posted messages to wipe the hard questions and a ban. I have not touched on the non-technical parts of this project that makes this extremely shady like triggering FOMO among the telegram by flooding it with bounty hunters (telegram went from 1k to 10k in a week), website setup in Panama and etc. I am extremely disappointed as a Singaporean to see that a MAS Sandbox Graduate would carry out a scam in the crypto scene. This is a bad mark for the crypto project developments in Singapore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilstern Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 As a responsible citizen of a civilized state, it is our duty to verify the news before spreading it. We should verify whether the platform that is providing the news is authentic or not ??. After the verification of the news, the news shall be spread. And report the scammers immediately before letting them harm anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobH Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Financials is scary with PAL. PAL had claimed to raise 23,809 when ETH is around $1k. Current ETH price is $200. With Val travelling, sponsoring and spending without any products out. PAL is out of money very soon. Dumping? Exchange listing are all expensive. Lets see. i) kucoin.. should be $500k ii) coinbene.. another $500k iii) bittrex is a major exchange. We could be looking at $1 mil or more and they have multiple exchanges at least $100k each PolicyPay is regularly sponsors and have events, assuming each costs $20k. They dun have a lot of money left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papia09 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 @valyap Whats the aim of all these conferences, Why are you speaking at so many conferences but whats the use? can you list down what are the conferences that you have attended and what the the expenses relating to these conferences and what are the gains that PPN has achevied from this conferences in relation to the expenses. As investors we are not in favour of Val flying first class and going on shopping sprees in theses countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrin Sultana Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Wow the sudden surge in members! How many fake users are there on you telegram group, your (telegram went from 1k to 10k in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkashHasan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I wanted to find out more about PolicyPal Network. so i searched for their UEN 201800311Z https://www.google.com/search?q=201800311Z&oq=201800311Z Something interesting came out. http://www.weny.com/story/39549166/fintech-industry-advocates-for-prudence-and-transparency-in-singapore-cryptocurrency-marketplace This article was talking about for Prudence and Transparency in the ICO realm, and Policy Pal was mentioned. Something more interesting is its actually a back dated article mentioned in March 2018 on policypal. http://archive.is/7OuUv?ico=policypal-scam-MAS Policy Pal and Pal Network seems pretty scammy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxon Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 23 hours ago, AkashHasan said: I wanted to find out more about PolicyPal Network. so i searched for their UEN 201800311Z https://www.google.com/search?q=201800311Z&oq=201800311Z Something interesting came out. http://www.weny.com/story/39549166/fintech-industry-advocates-for-prudence-and-transparency-in-singapore-cryptocurrency-marketplace This article was talking about for Prudence and Transparency in the ICO realm, and Policy Pal was mentioned. Something more interesting is its actually a back dated article mentioned in March 2018 on policypal. http://archive.is/7OuUv?ico=policypal-scam-MAS Policy Pal and Pal Network seems pretty scammy to me Check this out too http://www.ktvn.com/story/39549166/fintech-industry-advocates-for-prudence-and-transparency-in-singapore-cryptocurrency-marketplace http://markets.ask.com/ask/news/read/37357150 http://archive.is/7OuUv?ico=policypal-scam-MAS Mentioned Policypal abused their MAS sandbox startup, which they totally ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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